In this compelling episode of THE Conversation, co-hosts Rev. Will Mebane and Onjalé Scott Price explore the role of race and country of origin in shaping U.S. immigration policy. Joined by expert guests Chris George (Executive Director of IRIS) and Helen Malina (longtime refugee advocate), they unpack the inequities in our system and what it would take to make immigration more just and humane. Voices from the street — including Karen Guinn and David Forsberg — ground the discussion in real-world insight and historical context. Don't miss this honest, thought-provoking dialogue on one of the most urgent issues of our time.